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HOW are you almost full term?!?!?!?! I can't believe it. I'm glad you have such a good relationship with your doula, it sounds like you have really connected with each other.I can't wait to see your little baby boy and love love love the boys' room! Very hapy and cozy looking. :) I'll be thinking of you and sending you "easy" labour vibes (you can hope, right?)

from saliero :

Hi! You were mentioning wanting drawers - well we have these from Ikea in the boys bedroom and they are so big and roomy its AMAZING how much they hold. They look really good too, nice and light (though you can get it in different colours), they're very sturdy and they have matching items AND its only �185!!!! Absolute bargain. http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00067830 (if link doesn't work they're from the Hemnes range, something like 160 length, 90 high and 50 deep. Big but beautiful :-)

from wunderwuman :

So glad you're getting ready for baby, I can't believe you're going to have another one really, it just hit me as I was reading, WOW! As for the BH's, I know with my second pregnancy especially that there were DAYS on end with regular BHs that just never stopped... and I STILL went 8 days overdue and was induced. So you never know, You're probably more aware and nervous because of how early Nathan came along. :)

from ebombmom :

Can you not decline the GBS test in the first place? Or, if you have it and are positive, can you not decline the antibiotics and still choose homebirth? Over here 'they' certainly make it sound as if one can't do these things but it is your right to do so and many of my clients choose differently. Also, there are many natural measures you can take now to hopefully result in a negative test result; email me if you'd like any info! Lastly, ever hear of these women called doulas? ;) They can be a great help in labour, with children during homebirth (or with you, freeing up Neil to be with kids), postpartum help etc. Just sayin'. :)

from wunderwuman :

(this is for arthurs mummy post)I don't know ANY mother who doesn't reach the limit multiple times a day! We have to find what works for us (sometimes I ask Steve if he'll give ME the time out). I'm sorry you're having trouble though, it's so hard to be a mom and a wife. I agree with what someone else said, I don't think we're "hardwired" to parent alone (or as a couple). You mentioned a while ago (years?) about getting out in the evenings after the boys were asleep to a prayer group, what about something like that? While it isn't seperation from the boys (while they're awake) it will still give you some time away, and maybe a different perspective from other prayers? As far as you and Neil goes, from what little you said, try not to be too hard on yourself. At the end of long days, hubby is the easiest one to get angry with. At least you guys talked about it! So take what you talked about it and try to move forward with it. Have you seen Fireproof? One thing they suggested, was that everytime you have something negative to say to your spouse, bite your tounge. If you can't turn it into positive, just don't say anything at all. Try it for a week, but it's hard! Good luck and know that you're not alone in the way you feel, your boys aren't "bad" and sometimes dirty laundry needs to be aired to be dealt with. :)

from wunderwuman :

I'm in awe of you!! Still having energy to do housework with three little ones and a bump! Go alice go!!!

from wunderwuman :

This is a comment on your arthursmummy post :) I'm so happy and proud for you that you're doing so well!! I must ask, when you talk about submitting to your husband, what do you mean? Why must he be the leader of the household if in the relationship, you seem to be the leader? Why disrupt the natural balance of your relationship by imposing something that doesn't really work? I'm not criticizing, just curious :) It seems like you do such fun crafts with your boys, and I can't believe how BIG Nathan is getting!!! It seems that all of a sudden, Leila is very "3" and not my little toddler anymore, and so I'm struggling to find stimulation for her... any websites you'd suggest? I'm open to all, especially homeschooling ones, since I suppose that's technically what I'll be doing for a while, even though it isn't my long term goal. :) And as far as your children go, I think you are so blessed, and what others think be darned, it's none of their business. You are happy, and providing a safe and healthy home for your children, what does it matter to anyone else how many children you have? I think it's always very insensitive when people comment on the state of others family that they don't know. I even got comments when Alena was younger about having two that close in age, and I just feel that unless it's something positive, no one has a right to say anything to you about it. It's between you and Neil!!! Anyway, I'm rambling!!

from wunderwuman :

First of all: Congrats!!!! Yah!! I REALLY like the name Noah, and always have :) But you always choose such nice names, I'm sure you'll find something very fitting for this little guy. I still can't comment on your blogspot page, but am reading along :) I watched a movie called "Fireproof" last night and thought of you. It was given to us as a "religious movie that would help strengthen our marriage". I have since noticed it around. Anyway, you can check out the website at fireproofmymarriage.com I really liked the movie, I know you're not a big tv person, but you may want to check it out, or order it or something :)

from lindzeeleigh :

Wow! :) Congrats on your FOURTH little boy! I think we all knew it was going to be a boy again. Tee hee!!

from wunderwuman :

Ohhh!!!! It's four (or five?) your time and I have checked four times already today to see what the ultrasound said!!! Of course, I hope hope hope that all is well with babydot but also that they could see the little bits!!!!!!!

from spring08 :

Oh what was I hear to say. OH yes, with my last pregnancy I felt movement (& got heartbeat) way later than I was used to b/c of the position of the placenta!! Also I've heard good things about Sonlight, personally? We're doing eclectic (I am so lazy, I read you through bloglines & i didn't go comment but I read your entry on blogspot!) Also. I love how much your three littles remind me of when mine were very small, though yours are quite a bit closer in age. Mine are 10! 8! and 6 now!!!

from wunderwuman :

I've been waiting for a Babydot entry!! I'm glad things went well when you told the boys about new baby, and I'm so happy Arthur reacted the way he did, it must have put you at ease :) He is such a good big brother :) I don't blame you for being afraid of giving birth... I was much more nervous the second time because it was like as soon as I became pregnant, the memory of the pain became very real again and uhhhh it just hurts so much!!! It's good to keep perspective that at least you haven't had to push for hours and hours, but second degree tears sound horrible and quite frankly, as scary as the pain part!!! I hope the book you got proves to be helpful. Have you ever thought of attending a Lamaze or childbirth class? Maybe they would have some techniques that would work... ? Good luck and I can't WAIT until you get your next scan and we find out if it's really a little Benjamin in there! (PS I REALLY like the name Benjamin Issac)

from mypinkshirts :

Our family is very religious also and I know many "strict" Christians. I used hypnosis for my first homebirth and it was completely unlike those silly hypnosis shows they do. I was worried but it's much more of a deep personal relaxation. In fact, in my experience as a CBE, Christian, and natural birther, I firmly believe you can incorporate a deep spirituality into hypnobirthing/hypnobabies and use God and prayer as an anchor and part of your scripts. I would look into it a little more, maybe do a little trial run with the relaxing music, deep breathing, and visualizations. In my experience I was letting go and turning it all over - to God. I ended up not using scripts in labor because all I needed were the breathing techniques and prayer. Where I live it's very easy to find Christian hypnobabies teachers. I don't say this to tempt or anything like that. I just felt it was such a blessing to me to really connect with my body and baby in such a deeply spiritual and moving way. If you'd like I can get a "testimony" from my (conservative Christian) cbe friend who teaches hypnobabies.

from wunderwuman :

Also: I'm locking up for a while... email me at [email protected] of you would like the passwords :)

from wunderwuman :

I have been reading you at blogger, but for some reason can't post comments...? I can't believe that Nathan is ONE already!! Where has the year gone?!?! You are so good at making cakes, I should outsource the girls' if it weren't for that ocean between, haha! I'm glad Neil is taking the day off for his birthday, I know my girls are always so much happier when both of us are home. Also, I don't know the story of Cameron... could you tell it again or link to an entry about it?

from miss-katie :

I think Benjamin Isaac is the best all around choice. My friend has a Benjamin and nobody ever calls him Bennie or Benji, ever ever ever. It is Ben or Benjamin. Plus it's not like you see your brother every day or something. However, I think same first and middle names is a little too much. Just my two cents!

from lindzeeleigh :

I LOVE the name Benjamin, but I think I am biased because that is my husband's name. LOL. I can see that you have a bit of a difficult decision ahead of you because you don't want upset your family or choose almost the same name as your brother. I do love Noah Benjamin as well and it sounds really nice together. Perhaps you will be surprised and have a little girl after all??? Teeheee.

from with-child :

I think four boys will be wonderful, if that is indeed how it turns out (and it seems to be looking that way!) At least you have a niece to do girly things with. And yes, Josie is what I would call a Josephine but my husband is just not that into Josephine. Currently we are leaning toward "Clara Josephine," that way I can at least call her "Clara Josie" at times if I really feel like it!

from sweet-indigo :

I think Benjamin is a lovely name, although weirdly when I read about Babydot for the first time I thought "girl" for some reason, I think because of the "Dot"... so if you do have a girl you can call her Dorothy :D Or... not... But yes, Benjamin is a beautiful name and it's also Biblical, which is nice. Don't blame you for using Blogger to write entries, I originally intended to post both at diaryland and blogger but found that Blogger was much nicer because of the auto saves and saving as drafts and it can even automatically do your html for things like italics and bold and things! So, naughty me, I ended up abandoning Diaryland! I'm sure your baby will be very happy whether you have a boy or a girl, so congrats on whichever one it turns out to be :)

from lindzeeleigh :

I am glad you updated! :) I was wondering how you, Babydot and the boys were doing. Glad to hear the nausea is subsiding and that things are going well. Good luck at the scan, that is not too far away at all!

from libbyo :

Congratulations!!! I am happy for you, and don't worry about those who are "skeptical", God will bless you for your faith and trust in him! Not to mention, you will have such a full and happy life (maybe harder when they are little but it will be soooo worth it!), imagine Christmas when they are grown and all come home with their families! I would have a brood if my pregnancies weren't so difficult - so YEY FOR YOU!!! Maybe pink is in order this time? :)

from wunderwuman :

I'm so glad you're having good days and can't believe you're hearing your babe's heart already. It's SUCH an amazing thing, I don't think I ever made it through a heart beat without tearing a little. I'm very curious about breast feeding while pregnant (not because I want to get pregnant, it's just plain curiosity). Do you think your milk will last long enough until Nathan gets to be a year? Are you still nursing Arthur or just the two younger boys? Will you wean Matthew when Babydot is born? I have so many questions!! :)

from miss-katie :

Popsicles? Broth?

from wunderwuman :

Oh my gosh, I can't imagine that grossness of dumping out a potty with morning sickness!! Seriously, I think it's more gross than changing diapers! I'm impressed that you are managing to do it! Also, I was thinking about you last night (aside: how funny is it that we have never met and yet I think about you and wonder how you're doing on a regular basis?!) and I think this baby is a girl. I'm not sure why, but I got this very strong, sudden and convinced "girl" vibe!!!

from wunderwuman :

I think that as women, we are conditioned to feel that no one else should take care of our children, that we should be able to do it all... and realistically, we just can't. Especially when doing it all means taking care of three young and active children, keeping the house in order and cooking all the meals WHILE pregnant... I think that if you feel the need and can afford it, you should DEFINATELY welcome a little extra help. Think of what help Neil was when he was at home during Nathan's pregnancy and afterwards. Since he won't be able to be at home this time, someone to come in and watch the boys for a couple of hours and maybe clean the bathroom or make a meal while you rest.... it will be SUCH a load off your mind and body! Good for you for getting some bulk cooking done now! You'll appreciate that in a few shorts weeks :)

from wunderwuman :

Wow~ That second test is DEFINATELY a positive! I wasn't convinced yesterday, but the new test is much more obvious. Of course you're attached! I think it only takes a minute, once there is even the smallest part of you that believes there's a baby in there, you're already in love. I'm glad you got some good books, I met Matthew will enjoy looking on this time around too? When will you tell them? I can't believe you've been pregnant four times in four years! I did two in two years and I admire you for having the energy to keep going!!! :) I'll be sending sticky thoughts your way

from spring08 :

Well, congratulations :) Once you have 3, adding another one here or there is a breeze. Though mine were WAY older than yours when I added 4 & 5!!!!!

from miss-katie :

Congratulations! Enjoy your sixteen days :)

from wunderwuman :

Oh my goodness!! Congrats! I hope you don't get so drained this time... don't bother with what your mom said, mine reacted negatively when I told her I was pregnant with Leila, very similar to what your mom said actually... you know they just worry about you but in the end, LOVE being grandparents :)

from lindzeeleigh :

Wow! Congratulations on your pregnancy, Alice! I do hope that you will not be feeling too tired and sick. You never know, maybe it will be different this go around??? :)

from wunderwuman :

I've been thinking about you. Is this your longest without being pregnant since you conceived Arthur? Maybe your body just needs a little bit of a break to regain some reserves before another bean? I don't think you're concerned, I just wanted to let you know I've been thinking about you :)

from lindzeeleigh :

I know it will all work out when and how it is supposed to. :) *hugs*

from wunderwuman :

The week before I tested positive with Leila, I was SURE I kept starting my period and rushing to the bathroom only to find no period. I tested positive after the full week of missing my period (I was not quite so excited to test positive, as she was TOTALLY unplanned but that's another story!). Also, I can't BELIEVE that you might be pregnant again. I only have two and it constantly amazes me how well you cope with THREE little ones, and still want more. Part of me would love to have another child, but another part of me thinks that two will do quite nicely. I love reading your wafflings and watching your family grow :)

from lindzeeleigh :

Your chart is looking pretty pregnant to me. ;)

from lindzeeleigh :

I agree with Kaitlyn, perhaps this is just what happens with you before you then do get pregnant. I am thinking of you!

from wunderwuman :

If this does end up being a chemical pregnancy, perhaps your body just does a "trial run" before the real show :) And also, how has Nathan gotten so old already?!?!?!?!? I can't *believe* how time has flown since he was born. And all your musings and peeing on sticks is KILLING me and making me want another baby!!!!!

from wunderwuman :

So not to fuel the fire, but have you and Neil had any more conversations or come to a conclusion on your quiverfull?

from saliero :

That looks like a pretty nice implantation dip on 4DPO!!!!!

from saliero :

I love reading your pregnancy wonderings, I love charting and the excitment of the 'what-ifs' too and I don't think there's anything wrong with it at all, if people don't want to read your pregnancy diary then fine, but they shouldn't make you feel bad about it!! I do wish you'd update your normal diary more frequently though, you seem to be going longer and longer between posts!!

from lindzeeleigh :

Personally, I love reading about your pregnancy wafflings! It is fun for me to read and follow along with you! :)

from mamabean :

Now HOW do you expect any of us to get any sleep overnight after a post like that. I'll be up at 4 AM checking for a chart update, even though I know if you got a pink line, even "too late," you're pregnant. That's how BOTH of mine were. Sigh. Another muchable boo baby for you. You realize of course that this means you'll have been pregnant TWICE during my own pregnancy. I just can't be pregnant without you, it seems! Hee hee hee. :)

from saliero :

Oh My Goodness - you are so pregnant...!!!!!! :-D

from wunderwuman :

I think one of the hardest aspects of faith to rationalize and explain to others is just that, the faith. There are no answers to the questions you've been asked. You are inexplicably blessed to have not only three healthy children, but a healthy husband, a home and the means to feed and protect your children. Many around the world don't have that, and what can we do but recognize our blessings and help in ways that we believe are the most important.

from mamabean :

He is just so cute and munchable! I can't believe how big and robust he is already - and that he's already three mos. old! I'm glad you're still gooey and besotted and happy about your three beautiful boys - I worried you might get tired and depressed, but you've done wonderfully at managing it all. I agree with Jemma - you were really putting everything together beautifully with Matthew and Arthur. Cooking, FLYing and getting them out of the house. As they all get older, it will continue to get easier, I think. Never 100% easy, but we wouldn't want it to be EASY EASY, would we? I have every confidence you'll work out a great system for running your household, though, and that your boys will have everything they need to thrive.

from tequilamonky :

Oooh I'll be interested to see how your temps an out. My instincts are telling me you're not pregnant to be honest but then I was wrong about Nathan ;) I agree with Wundrwoman above that your plans sound really good and well worth implementing anyway. You had got to that point of organising the houe and the boys before you got pregant with Nathan so I know you can easily get there again :) I have to say that I think you're doing your mother and many other women a disservice when you talk of the reasons women don't have larger families. The majority of the women I know who have made the (often very hard for them) decision to stop at two children (or even one child for some) have done so not because they "don't want all those kids around the place!" but in fact because of well thought through health and/or financial reasons. I know for a fact that many women (myself included!) would happily have large families and many, many children if they felt they could comfortably feed, clothe and house them all.

from wunderwuman :

Well, there is certianly a lot going on in your mind and life right now! I think that you're feelings of "Ahhhh!!!!" at being pregnant are completely normal. I know *I* felt that way when I found out I was pregnant (both times!) but especially with number 2, and my children will be almost two years apart and were (mostly) planned. It's a scary thought because it's such a big unexpected change! But that doesn't mean it's any less of a blessing, or that you treasure it any less, just beause it feels overwhelming at times. (this is if you are, after all!) Your plans sounds like really good ideas that you should implement regardless of if you are pregnant. Imagine if you could get Nathan on a good, indepedent sleep schedule at a young age! You haven't slept for four years, it would be bliss for you to sleep for eight hours every night. And being well rested makes everything else seem less overwhelming, I find, like organizing your house and taking care of rambuncious boys. Anyway, good luck and I am obsessively checking to see if you've updated about little "benjamin" being on the way now or not :)

from nickyslilone :

Hi Alice, I read in your diary entry about using playdough with Matthew and Arthur, and was wondering if you buy it from a shop, or make it? When I worked in the nursery, we had to make a fresh batch of playdough every week because of so many children using it, and thought maybe it might be an option for you that might be cheaper than the shop bought stuff? (plus you can make it in any colour you like, and add cool stuff like glitter) http://www.teachnet.com/lesson/art/playdoughrecipes/traditional.html We used that recipe, give or take (usually doubled the measurements for a LOT of playdough), but used boiling water, and then didn't bother to heat it. Turns out well! And you can add any additional bits and bobs to the dough after the food colouring. Hope this helps a little :)

from lindzeeleigh :

Wow! I can't believe that you might be pregnant again! That is exciting and a little scary all at once. :) I have this sneaking suspicion that you are. Don't ask me why, it is just a feeling!

from wunderwuman :

So sweet! And such a chubby little bunny!! I was wondering if you have ever used Wonderoos diapers? I'm looking at some and wondering how they actually fit new borns. Any advice?

from ebombmom :

CUTENESS! Ok, it weirds me out how parallel our lives are. Ewan and Colin love to coo and lie together chatting, and Colin gives Ewan his biggest gapey mouthed grins! :) Yet, most people say Colin looks most like Seth!

from lindzeeleigh :

I love the photos of Nathan smiling - so cute! I also love the ones of him and Arthur laying together. What lovely boys you have!!

from spring08 :

Oh he is so precious & sweet. The pictures of the boys together just bring back SO MANY memories for me when my 3 were close to those ages (not quite as close together, Jer had turned 4 when L was born and K was 2 already). So so so sweet.

from lindzeeleigh :

Very cool video! Thanks for sharing that, that was amazing. So glad to hear everything is going so well with boys, especially little Nathan. I will be praying and hoping Neil is able to get a job soon.

from nickyslilone :

Hmm.. Just thinking right now, I think I've been a bit bewildered about the faintness of the line because not counting the last one, my last cycles have been around 28-30 days, so at 32 days past last menstrual period, I thought I'd be past 14 days past ovulation - but to be honest I have NO idea when I ovulated - maybe I ovulated quite late during the month? Or maybe my natural cycle is a little longer than I thought.

from nickyslilone :

Looking at those pictures you linked me, I think it's probably paler or as pale as the 10DPO one... it really is extremely hard to see.. I think I will just wait a couple of days and see what, if anything, happens. :)

from beckstar1975 :

Hi Alice I've been reading your blog since I was ttc my first child (he's now 2.5, ds 1 and about to ttc no 3 - you're in inspiration!!). I so sympathise with you about Arthur - and I know you may not agree with what I suggest, but I feel I must say it. Theo gets exactly like that, and it's when he's been in the house a lot and hasn't had other people to bounce off. I know you are going to home-school - but as he's such an intelligent boy I think a lot of it may be boredom and understimulation - have you thought about even a few hours of playschool a week. It seems (and this is no dig, quite the contrary) that you are too busy to do nursery at home, nor should you have to at the moment, but that he could really use some external distraction. Just my opinion, and am honestly not wishing to criticise, but couldn't let it be left unsaid. Good luck and God Bless! b*

from comfortm :

Hi, it never occured to me before now to leave a comment as im not on diaryland much anymore except to read this diary and your arthurmommy one. Congratulations on your third one..i think he looks like arthur..so sorry about your money situation..it happens to us all at some point. I have a question for you, now that Nathan is amonth old, how is losing your babyweight going since you are breastfeeding?

from marlen816 :

Nathan is a cutie. I think he looks like Matthew.

from nickyslilone :

Hi Alice, thanks for checking up on me. Still no period, but haven't tested since last Wednesday - getting a bit downhearted with the negatives. I'm pretty sure (about 90-95%) that I'm not pregnant, and my worrying about it is what's delayed my period. But I will test again with a cheapo test and then ring up the doctor since it's now been a week and a half (ish) since my period was due.

from nickyslilone :

Hey Alice :) I've not really been charting yet because we only started trying part way through a cycle, and I just never got round to charting for a while beforehand. Over the past week I have been taking my temperature, but it's not a BBT thermometer, and I have nothing really to compare it to, since by then I must have already ovulated! But it was in the low to mid 36s - got a 36.2 reading, and as high as 36.4. Don't know if that means anything! It's a bit hard to know since I don't know when I actually ovulated this month! If I get my period this month I'll try charting - with my normal non basal thermometer :S hehe

from legolass :

hi there :-) i stumbled across your diary through a link through a link etc.. i was absolutely fascinated, i think it's amazing you've kept such a detailed record of everything!! i still feel little more than a baby myself, so not ready for all this for a while yet but it's defintely a matter of when and not if - and reading all of your birth stories, while it scared the living bejeezus out of me, also intrigued me as i've never read such a detailed account before. i can't help but wonder how many more you're planning on having!! but please promise you'll keep it up to date if you do, as i'm sure i'll find it all very useful in time to come :-)

from wunderwuman :

Have you tried sleeping Nathan on his belly? I remembered that seemed to work for Matthew. And I know what you mean about the sucking! My daughter sucked our fingers for three months, when she got her first teeth and started to bite (thanksfully it was only ever fingers she bit) and we had to "wean" her off our finger!

from lilpeanut80 :

Oh my! Nathan IS SOOOO CUTE! You may be biased, but you are also RIGHT! What a sweetie!

from wunderwuman :

Michelle just wrote what I was thinking, about hindmilk! And also, I'm sure he will start gaining soon! Is it the MWs who are pressuring you about formula? That sounds so un-midwifey. Also, seeing your little boy sleeping on your chest made me soooooo excited for when my baby is born!!

from ebombmom :

I wonder if nursing Nathan second may be a good idea for a bit? Since he takes in so little, tanking him up with fattier hindmilk instead of abundant foremilk might make a difference. Just an idea. :) He's lovely, and you're such a good mummy!

from marlen816 :

Sweet, sweet pictures!

from lindzeeleigh :

Nathan is so adorable! You are right, he doesn't look like either Arthur or Matthew. I love the photo of him all curled up on your belly. How precious!

from lowercaseg :

OH Nathan *is* beautiful! Congratulations! Good for you for sticking with your mommy intuition as far as feeding goes!

from ebombmom :

Oh my, is he ever cute! I almost burst into tears over the cuteness of him curled on your belly. So precious! and the little tucked-in lower lip! It makes me even more excited to meet my own fresh little bean... :) Congratulations to all of you and I'm so glad you're happily home!

from spring08 :

He is GORGEOUS! Oh. Is it May yet????? I can't wait for baby nameless

from wunderwuman :

I have been obsessively checking for updates. Happy to hear that you are home (along with the "Milk Maid" as my mother calls it) with all FOUR of your boys!! That's interesting about Arthur, although maybe he is finding this new arrival a little more unsettling than Matthew? Although I suppose it's natural for a three year old to self wean too, isn't it? I've heard of children weaning because the milk tasted "yucky". Nathan is absolutely, completely beautiful! I love his little chin and pursed mouth, and I am happy he's so gurgly content with all the milk. :)

from lindzeeleigh :

Yay, I am glad Nathan has arrived safely! :) Part of me wondered if he was going to surprise us and be a girl! Can't wait to see what he looks like. Congratulations, proud mummy!

from spring08 :

Congratulations!! We found out today that we're expecting another boy, hurray!!!

from lowercaseg :

Congratulations!!!

from marlen816 :

Congrats! So very excited for you and your boys, including Neil =)

from miss-katie :

Congratulations! I can't wait to see pictures. Can the hospital get you a pump (and a lactation consultant) to make sure no problems get started in the milk arena? I'm so glad you're both doing well.

from wunderwuman :

Congrats congrats congrats! Soooo happy for you and that Nathan is healthy and s good size! I hope you are able to go home soon and that nursing catches on (I know you're dedicated enough to keep at it :) Congrats!!!

from lindzeeleigh :

Wow, I can't believe that little Nathan is going to be here soon. I hope and pray all goes well for you, Nathan and the rest of your family. :)

from lowercaseg :

Oooo - I am *so* thinking about you and your family - I am sure everything will be just fine!

from wunderwuman :

I remember being at a LaLeche Meeting once and a woman telling us how she lost her mucus plug WEEKS before she went into labour. Apparently, it's only a sign of emmenent (sp?) labour with your first pregnancy! Also, maybe you're just having some discharge? I always get mucus-y and very very wet when I'm near term. In any case, thinking and praying for you.

from mymemry :

I MUST go to bed - I'm getting up REALLY early and going to go to my sister's house to clean tomorrow. James has been doing odd jobs over there (cleaning out gutters, remodeling their bathroom, installing a garbage disposal, etc..) anyway - they have been such a blessing to us financially and I wanted to bless her by doing a FANTASTIC job cleaning - she is paying me $20 bucks an hour to do it and they have a really big house! I did not have time to read this whole entry - scanned it and wanted to tell you that you are a wonderful mummy. You make GOOD, SOUND decisions based on what you think is best for your boys and you LOOK RADIANT! I love you and I LOVED the card yall sent. Thank you. That so blessed me. Please, please tell Arthur that yalls card was BY FAR my MOST FAVORITE card of the year. Maybe ever! Thank you. Just the thought of yall putting that together with your own hands, that sweet boy of yours - and your beautiful hand writing. Thank you! I guess I should add MY two cents in regarding the home birth. It is my thought that you do go to your appt that you set up for that Friday. Pray before you go and allow the Lord to speak to your heart and change YOUR mind and YOUR heart if He wants you anywhere other than the comfort of your own home. You can go - hear what they say and then tell them "thank you for the information, my husband and I will pray about it and do what is in the best interest of my family" Lord knows that you have freedom at home to do whatever you need to do to get through it. Once you go into the hospital- all bets are off. Of course you want what is best for Nathan. You pray, the Lord will lead you into that. Love you. Julie

from tequilamonky :

Hmm interesting. I guess the baby could be a girl since there was no absolute clarity at the scan, then again he could just be a littler boy. My friend's third boy was a full 2 lbs lighter than her first two. Looking forward to hearing the girly name though, got any in mind yet? Oooh and of course if the baby is a girly you'll have no worries about girly (and pink!) clothes and nappies as I'll be sending sackfulls your way ;)

from tequilamonky :

Hehe if we didn't already know what you were having, that midnight pickle munching wuld have me guessing boy!

from wunderwuman :

Oh so many comments! First of all, I am pregnant with number two and have all these fears and concerns about bonding with the new baby, and what about my relationship with my first baby, and if you ever have a minute to write about how you felt before you gave birth to Matthew, I would love to hear about it. Secondly, I think it is so amazing that Neil's unemployment happened at the same time as your third trimester, and really, a blessing in disguise. After my daughter was born, my husband took six months off and stayed home with us. And I had the exact same fears, that maybe I couldn't take care of her by myself (and there was only one, so I know your fears must be ultiplied with two boys and pregnant). But he went back to work and I just did it. So although it is a scary thought, I am sure that somehow you will find a way. Also, I am really happy that your brother will mind the boys for you and I TOTALLY understand what you mean about having more confidence in his baby abilities now that he's a dad. My brothers both love to play with their neice but I never feel like I could leave them alone with her incase she did something they couldn't handle (pooping being on that list!). Anyway, and one last thing, Hurray! for 30 weeks and being so close to meeting your new boy!

from tequilamonky :

Yay to thirty weeks!It actually makes me go "woah!" even more than most as it was around 30 weeks that I first went into labour with both my pregnancies so I know that if I am ever pregnant in the future 30 weeks will be a scary time for me. f course if Nathan is anything like his brothers he'll keep you waiting for a good while yet ;) I think your birth plan ideas sound good. I love the fact that you're considering the whole family in your plans, it just shows what a good mother of many you're going to be :) Please don't worry about not coping with the bys. You have managed it before and will manage it again. Maybe it would be a good time to start asking arund your church now if there are any teenage girls (or boys) who might be up to coming round and helping out. Thanks for the (10!) comments on my diary lol! I actually can't beleive how grown up my two look either! We really must get all our kids together again. I hope to be driving before you have Nathan so maybe then I can drive over and visit and help out a bit wilst the kids play.

from mamabean :

Hi Alice. I know you are very very busy these days and not getting to read diaries like you usually do, but when you have a minute, take a look at my old private diary. Stuff is happening. Love you - M

from tequilamonky :

Yay to now being viable, althouh obviously we want that boy of yours to stay in there for a good while yet! I love the last photo, you and your three boys! I reckon it sould be your new Arthursmummy photo :D

from tequilamonky :

Hope you're all well! I thought maybe Neil being home would give you a chance to catch up with your diarys one evening. Looking forward to hearing how you're all doing xxxx

from andthebaby :

I'm not at diaryland anymore but still reading your diary! Congrats on boy #3. We just had our 4th (boy) and he was 9lbs 3oz. I'm not big either so it was quite a surprise! He's the biggest anyone can remember in any of our families! You just never know :)

from tequilamonky :

Diary #3?

from mamabean :

I can't believe it's been 24 weeks already. Your belly looks so lovely. I'm jealous! I'm glad things are going well, sorry though for the headaches - hope those clear up quickly. Dying to hear more about the Flylady stuff and how it's working for you! I wish you would update diary #3 again, but I know how busy you are. I was really loving that one alongside the others!

from tequilamonky :

Oh and I clicked back onto your older entries to compare this stage with your other pregnancies (I love comnpaing pregnancies, including my own!) and at 23 weeks you had gained 18 pounds with Arthur, 14 pounds with Matthew and 17 pounds with Nathan, so it's more like Arthur which makes sense really since you said Nathan seems more Arthur-shaped :)

from tequilamonky :

Yay to colostrum! Is that earlier or later than with your other two boys? Just wondering if it might be an indicator of whther Nathan will follow his brothrs in that respect. It must be reassuring to know he's viable, although of course we want him staying put for a good while yet ;)

from aisling2005 :

I can believe it ;) And I can relate to the dissapointment at the scan when you find out its a THIRD boy. It was my first u/s when I did it and I was really hoping pink. But we got pink for our fourth so maybe there is hope for you yet ?! Dr. Shettles book is a good one, 70% rate I believe if you follow the methods. Thats how I got my girl ! :)

from reassemble :

Oh, Nathan Martin! I love his name. Congrats! I am a boy-machine, too. It's not so bad. :) He's gorgeous already, too.

from lindzeeleigh :

I was waiting to see your update when I came home today to see if you were having a boy or girl. I swore it was going to be a girl, but I was wrong! I am glad you are still happy that it si aboy, but I think it is normal to feel a little disappointed. I think Nathan is a lovely name and I love how your dad was so thrilled!

from ugottafriend :

Congrats on another baby boy!

from reassemble :

Oh no, I can just SEE Americans reading that you drink red wine and getting rabid. Steel yourself... lol. Mm, I love red wine.

from tequilamonky :

Your other guestbook hates me now too! Here's my message..... I reckon it's perfectly understandable to feel blue the day afer the scan. With Jove, even though we really wanted a boy and were delighted to have a boy ad therefore one of each, I still felt a sadness and sense of loss at the girl that could have been. I felt sad that Jaya wouldn't have a sister so cose in age to her even though I was excited for her about having a brother so close in age. Until you go in for that scan there are two possible children to be really, a boy or a girl. There are two paths your future could take one with a son and brother to your children and one with a daughter and sister to your children. Once you know, you have to kind of mourn the loss of the one a bit as well as getting excited about the other. Does that make sense?

from reassemble :

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from reassemble :

I am jealous of the way you always LOOK pregnant so soon! I never looked pregnant to where other people could tell until I was 6 or 7 months along. In fact, I should email you the photo of me in labor with Mason. I LOVE your belly.

from lindzeeleigh :

Just wanted to say a quick hello - I popped in here through Jenn and wanted to say congrats on baby #3. I hope you will be able to find out if it is a boy or girl. I am going to guess girl!

from reassemble :

I like Nathan Martin. I LOVE the name Martin. But you won't have to worry about it because I am totally sure that you are having a girl. So there.

from reassemble :

For what it's worth (and I am glad Beanlet is alright, of course) ... I think the baby LOOKS like a girl. That is a girly fetus! LOL

from tequilamonky :

Have to be brief as I'm at my parents but just wanted to quickly send huge hugs for the hard time you're having. I have to say tyhough that from what you've written you ARE actually getting lots of help. You certainly have more people helping you than I did when I was at the end of my pregnancy with threatened pre-term labour as you mentioned. As someone else said. Call a cleaner. Also definitely go to your parents. Your mum can look after you and the boys and whilst you're all away Neil will have more free time and less messy people about so he can get the house all tidy and on the market. I know you feel resentful and that people should help more. The thing is people are helping, people do want to help. I know I myself would be over and helping in a shot if I could. People are busy with their own lives though and it is not their responsibility to look after you and your children. People do it because they are lovely and caring and thoughtful but really no HAS to do anything. You guys will get through this. As someone else said it's a wake up call and is going to be tough but I KNOW you are totally capable and able to do this. Just go stay with your mum, get past this tough first bit and then go gung ho into selling the house, buying a new one and getting a cleaner etc. Whatever you have to do to make it work for you all. Lots of hugs xxxxxx

from marlen816 :

Wonderful news!

from reassemble :

I am so glad Beanlet is alright! Your blood extravaganza sounds fun. It would be neat if we got to do that in clinicals! We did UAs today, and the girl sitting next to me found out she was pregnant! So cute.

from bitterwineuk :

I stopped reading this diary when Matthew was born and lost alot of my favourite diaries due to a troublesome old computer. Then I accidentally stumble across this in someone elses list and there is a baby number 3 on the way. I am incredibly happy for you and sorry that you have had such a rough time in the last few days. glad all appears to be settled but will be keeping you in my thoughts. Becca. x

from marlen816 :

This is so good to hear! Still praying =) ((Hugs))

from mummyof3 :

My dearest Alice... I have been reading your diary now ever since you were just pregnant with Arthur! My name is Bec, im 29 and I live in Australia. My husband's name is Daryl. We have 3 children; Lochlan 7, Flynn 2 & our newest arrival is Charlize (6mth�s) Every time I read your entries I say to myself 'One day I have GOT to say hello" but then a little person need's my intension and I never get to. I have just finished reading your new entry titled ~ Scared Silly And I knew that this was the day I had to speak with you, as I can see how scared you are. I to have been through this very thing you are describing and it�s by far one of the scariest thing�s I�ve been through. This happened with our middle child; Flynn when I was 10 week�s also. I to bled like you are and ended up in emergency, and was admitted over night scared senseless. The following morning showed a healthy viable fetus. I just couldn�t believe it due to the amount of blood I was losing and I also had the cramping you are describing. I don�t want to set you up with false hope. I would hate to disappoint you like this, as it�s not my intension. But I want you know that �Our Flynn� was born perfectly healthy and is a picture of health. I hope you and your family can get through this difficult time very quickly and be back on track again. Please know that I am praying my heart out for you and your little bean. Hug�s Bec xox P.S I feel like I�ve known you for a life time.

from pebsmurf :

Big hugs and lots of prayers being said for you!!

from marlen816 :

Alice - Praying for you and the baby. ((Hugs))

from lowercaseg :

I am hoping everything will be okay. Thinking of and praying for you and your family...

from bodega :

I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you and praying for you and your family.

from reassemble :

Whenever you talk about fish pie and other british-y foods it makes me want to go eat dinner at my parents' house. Now I'm hungry. Anyway... I always bleed with my pregnancies. Not spot, but bleed. Every one except the one I lost, in fact. With Mason, I had cramping also. It's always scary. Every time, whether I know it's normal for me or not. I hope it stops for you SOON.

from lowercaseg :

I just read your newest entry about spotting. I'm thinking of you and praying it is just like your other two pregnancies at this stage! Having similar occurances before IS reassuring! :) You are such a wonderful mama!

from tequilamonky :

Oooh forgot to say! I know it's not as interesting as there's no chance of pregnancy but would you mind having a quick look at my chart this month? It's really confusing me!

from viks :

CONGRATULATIONS :D

from lowercaseg :

I've been lurking for some time (here and at your main diary!) I have a little girl just a BIT older than Matthew. She is 14 months. I just wanted to say congratulations! I'm so excited to follow along in the excitement of your new little one!

from reassemble :

Oh I so agree with that forum quote. I think it's like... the first baby is the one you usually make the most mistakes with, since you have no clue what you're doing. With the second baby, you're on better footing to start with and learn what you need to know. By the time the third one comes along, you can put the things you learned into practice right from the start so things just naturally run more smoothly. Hey, by the time number five comes along, you're breastfeeding the baby in one arm, helping the oldest kid with their reading homework with the other arm, and vaccuming with your left foot (while dinner is on the stove, of course). Heh.

from marlen816 :

Congrats!!

from reassemble :

Congrats! I had three boys in a row too. But that was after Raney, of course.

from aisling2005 :

You. Are insane ;) Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How exciting. Good luck on the girlie. I got 3 boys in a row. We used shettles method for the girlie.