Today's Ramblings

Monday, Mar. 24, 2003
11:39 am

The book we read last night, and the conversation with Sarah afterwords

has just made so many different things surface. It was very good

because we were able to really talk. We both shared a lot of things and

communicated needs and concerns and thoughts. It helped a lot, but so

much of this is so hard.

The book was on codependency. I always thought of codependency as a

relationship where one person was addicted to something and the other

person tried like hell to protect them. I guess that's one form of

codependency, but it can take a lot of other forms too. And although

not all of the traits matched me, some of them did and that is scary to

realize. The very first trait of codependency is compulsion. At first I

thought well I can't think of any compulsions in my life, any

addictions. But what if... What if the touch and the physical/emotional

closeness is a compulsion for me? If it's denied, even for good reason,

it does often send me into emotional turmoil. Fortunately that rarely

if ever includes anger, which is another trait. It's more like

desperation. A compounded need to beg and to walk away and hide.

Sometimes it's stronger than others. But does that make the need wrong?

Does the fact that it could be becoming, or maybe already is, a

compulsion make it a bad thing as opposed to a natural and healthy

need? And if so what am I supposed to do about it. They said that

sometimes the compulsion can be for a person. My God, what is that

saying. I'm having a hard time even going here, because it feels like

if something turns out to be a compulsion that you're supposed to just

drop it, and I absolutely just cannot do that. If this is a problem, if

it has gone too far, somehow there has got to be a way to heal without

losing everything.

Ok backing up a bit. Other things said in the book. Paraphrasing of

course. They said something about a codependent's happiness being

connected to the happiness of the other person. And trying to control

things they can't. I can relate to a lot of that too. How many times

have I felt scared and hopeless and out of control when I know that

Sarah, or even Kevin, is struggling but won't let me in? Or at least it

feels that way. It's more like they won't let me try to help in the way

that I think I can help. Is that not some form of control? Not the

trying to help, but that idea that I have to be there doing something.

Again, where is the line between a healthy intense compassion and an

unhealthy need for control? I always thought of control as a cruel

thing, sitting there with a whip or harsh words trying to force someone

to do your every bidding. But that's not the only form of control. And

at the same time, how can I try to back off from that, and at the same

time still give myself permission to feel and to express those

feelings? How can I know if I'm pushing too hard or if they need that

little push to do something they need to d and are just afraid to?

There's just so many contradictions. I dont' know how to make them all

fit into some kind of solution, or even the beginning to a solution. I

feel so lost and hopeless. Not hopeless in a dangerous way, just don't

know what to do or where to go with this.

Well by the time that side of the book was over, I was fighting with

all I had not to bawl. I can't go here without crying. I was just

terrified, because it seemed to be telling me that what I was feeling

was wrong after all. That I was just a codependent controlling excuse

for a friend and on the road for even worse things that would hurt me

and anyone I was close to in the long run. Afterwords Sarah and I

talked for a long time. One thing she asked me about was what were my

ghosts from the past. there's probably a lot of them actually, but I

need to finish this part and I think I'll come back to the ghosts

thing. Eventually we got off into the specifics of our relationship,

and I think we brought out a lot of things that needed to be brought

out. She promised me that she would tell me if there was something

about our relationship that was becoming a problem, even if it was hard

to hear. I need to trust her to do that. I also told her I need to know

more what she is thinking with us. I need to know what is working and

what isn't. If I don't know, all I can do is try to guess. And I need

to try to quit reading into everything. But it's hard to break that.

I've spent my life trying to figure people out, anticipate their needs,

be good so I would be liked/loved. But I'm not a mind reader. The only

ways I know how to figure out what people are thinking if they don't

tell me is to think of how I might feel in a similar situation, or to

compare it to how someone else acted in the past. And I do that without

even thinking. But what is that doing. It's either projecting my own

feelings onto the other person, or comparing to someone when they may

be nothing alike. And yet again here is that conflict. What is the

difference between projecting feelings and trying to relate to someone?

I always saw my ability to put myself into someone's shoes and try to

feel what they're feeling as a gift, a way to connect more deeply. And

yet this type of behavior leads to assumptions. I find myself afraid to

reach out physically to her now because there are many time she doesn't

want it, or maybe can't handle it is a better way of saying it. The

only way I know to try to relate to that feeling is to think about how

I feel when someone touches me and it's too intense, like if they have

sexual feelings for me. I feel like I have to get away, and the more

they try to more their touch becomes a problem for me. And I end up

projecting those feelings onto her, which produces a fear that if I

don't back off she'll never be comfortable with me touching her

again.She's told me that's not what it's like. But it's hard not to

compare what's happening to what I read on her web site about how she

just needs to be held. It's hard to understand how that can be true,

and yet how almost every time I try it she can't. And yet she's told

me. There's most likely different people out now. Different

circumstances. Different needs. but my feelings still tell me I'm just

incapable, inadequate and I'm wasting my time even trying. Again, my

mind connects the physical to the emotional and they are practically

inseparable.

And this brings me to another subject, that doesn't just relate to the

physical thing. The concept of sacrificing. Sarah made a comment to me

about how sometimes if she knows I really need it she will make the

sacrifice and give me the closeness. I don't know how to explain my

reaction to that. I wanted to just yell out "no! That's not what I

want!" Not out of anger but almost out of fear. It's a no win

situation. I want the closeness, the trust, the openness. But I want it

because it's needed on both sides, not because she sacrifices her own

needs for mine. Asking her to do that feels selfish, controling,

hurtful. But not just that. If she, if anyone, is giving something to

me as a sacrifice, then how can I know when it's genuinely wanted? If I

know that when I put my arm around her, or she puts her arm around me,

that she's making a sacrifice for me, then how do I know that it's not

like that every time it happens. When we watch episodes together, when

she wakes me up at night to go in her room, is she just doing these

things as a sacrifice? When Kevin does talk to me for a few minutes

when they have safe time, is he just doing that as a sacrifice? Ar the

only choices here to either give up what I need, or accept the meeting

of that need as a sacrifice from the other person? Is it even possible

to have both/all of our needs met at the same time by the same actions?

Ok, what else. We talked a lot about the others. I'm trying to

understand why it seems so important to me to get to know some of them

individually. I didn't feel this way with Kathryn so I know it's not

just a DID thing. Oh I enjoyed getting to know them, but I didn't have

the same desire. I just took it as it came. then again, her situation

was different. there was very little co-consciousness with her system.

But with Sarah and Kevin both, there's just something about knowing the

others. I already have memories of times with certain ones of them. I

remember Justin asking if he could call me sister. I remember butch and

brian and skip and several of the other guys along with Justin when

they met me that day. I remember when Angel was so frightened and I

asked if I could hold her, and she let me. She couldn't talk and her

breaths were shallow but she seemed to trust me. And of course those

times when she pops out when I tickle her, but she doesn't seem to stay

then. I remember playing air hockey with Lex and Amber, and I remember

Cara a little too but she was harder to recognize partially because I

don't really know when she first came out. I remember Kendra in Houston

a little too. I have the intros and they help a lot, because if Sarah

says something about one of them I can at least relate it to something.

I don't want, expect or need to always know who is out. That's not what

this friendship is all about. But it's felt like they are kind of

hiding from me, like they're afraid that if I know who they are that

I'll reject them or hurt them or laugh at them. I just want a chance to

prove that I accept them totally, that I'm willing to know them for

real. I want to be able to say "Angel, I see you and I'm glad you're

here because I love you," or "Emma, I want to be your friend because

you're very special to me," or "Tasha, I know this is scaring you and

I'll stay with you if you want me to." I'm just throwing out examples.

But of course then I wonder. Maybe I'm just wrong about the whole

situation. Maybe they're happy with how it is now and they don't want

me to know them like that. In that case is it fair for me to keep

asking about it? As we talked the other night Sarah did help me

understand a few things. I didn't realize that showing themselves or

admitting who they are is actually triggering for some of them. I

remember in an email where Sarah said that they liked it, and I was

basing everything on that statement. I don't ever want to trigger them!

And she said how when she got to know Kevin how some of them made the

sacrifice for him. Here we go with the sacrifice thing again. I don't

want them to do this because they want to make a sacrifice for me. I

want them to do it because they want to know me and be known by me the

way that Kevin knows them. If this isn't possible, if they just don't

want that from me, then I'll need to accept that. But I need to know if

that's the case.

Anyway, we came up with a sort of compromise. I won't push the issue

anymore, unless i feel a really strong need to talk to one of them for

some reason. And in that case of course they have the right to say no.

But we talked about maybe some of them, if they wanted to, writing

their own intros to me. Sarah gave me little paragraph intros on some

of them, but it looked like one person wrote all of them. Maybe not,

that's just how it seemed. This way, they could introduce themselves.

It would be more real for me in person I think, but I can understand

how that could be awkward. Perhaps this way it could help open some

dialog and sharing with some of them if they want to do that.

I think that's about it as far as what we talked about. Now to talk

about ghosts from the past. Man, this is draining, but it needs to be

done. And I need something to focus on right now anyway.

When we read the second side of the bok, there was a lot that rang a

bell. But that's getting ahead of myself. A little family history here.

My mom definitely did not have a pretty childhood. She was raised by an

alcoholic father and a mother who always seemed to me to be pretty

emotionally distant. I know she was sexually abused or raped at least

once, but can't remember who it was that did it. I know it wasn't her

dad, someone else. She was pretty rebelious, and was even put into a

girls home at one point. Her mom never realy talked to her about stuff.

She got terrified when she started her period because she had no idea

what it was. In her late teens she got involved with a guy named

Michael, and she really loved him. But he was killed in a motorcycle

accident. She always told me that if that hadn't happened, she would

have married him and he would have been my father.

I don't remember when that happened exactly, but I know she got

involved wiht a few guys after that. One of them was Steve, and he got

her pregnant. When I was born, Steve and my mom talked about marrying.

But she didn't love him in that way.

I don't remember the events after that. I think I was six months old

when my mom and Brian married, but maybe that's when they met. Not

sure. Anyway, I never called Brian "dad", but always referred to him as

my dad to others. It was just easier that way. He did end up fathering

my sister when I was six. then they divorced when i was ten.

Brian was never much of a father. He didn't seem to have much of a

childhood either, though I don't know many details. He just wasn't

emotional unless he was mad. It wans't like he was unloving in the

sense that he hated or just didn't care about us. I can remember some

somewhat tender moments. But looking at the big picture, he was just

sort of there. He never was interested in going to anything that we did

in school. Mom went, but he never did. His way of showing love was to

do things for us, build things or whatever. Rarely did he set

boundaries, but if we did something really wrong he'd yell at us or

spank us. I know he and my mom both did drugs when I was really little.

Mom quit, but Brian probably still smokes pot to this day. Of course, I

didn't know about that until my teenage years. I never felt like I

could talk to him unless I was just totally desperate. One example I

remember is trying to tell him about my newfound faith. His response

was "don't worry, you'll grow out of it." That really hurt. Still does.

His was probably a prime example of wanting to love but having nothing

in his tank to give. So he loved with material things, with the

occasional trips to the park. When he was in a good mood he was a

pleasure to be around. But when he wasn't it was scary. He never hurt

us, but it felt like the potential was there.

Mom on the other hand really did do her best. But that doesn't mean

there weren't painful things. I rarely talk to her either because I

felt that I was criticized if things didn't make sense to her. Or I

should say the potential was there. It didn't always happen but I never

knew. To her I was too sensitive, cried too much, cared too much about

things I couldn't do anything about. Perhaps some of this was true, but

instead of trying to help me deal with those things she indirectly

encouraged me to just ignore them. At the same time, yes ther ewas

emotional incest sometimes. I remember her telling me about how when I

was about two years old she went through a very deep depression, and

how I was her only reason to live at that point. I don't remember any

of that, but surely at that age I had to know. I became her confidant

many times through my childhood. I didn't know how to play that role,

but I did my best because she was my mom and I loved her. The thing is,

I'm having a hard time now with the concept that this is a negative

thing. I felt privelleged that she trusted me like that even though I

was still a child. It put us on a somewhat equal level and it made me

feel important and wanted and like I had something to give. It's hard

to consider that kind of trust as abuse. But then again, those times

were when we were the closest. Not all the time, but many times when

that wasn't happening I was just doing my own thing while mom watched

television. God, no wonder feeling shut out or not needed/trusted cuts

so deep. This whole thing set the stage for me to take on the strong,

sensitive, caretaker role. And yet, no one else let me do that, and no

one else would do it for me. So I ended up gravitating to the one way

friendships, where I would give and give willingly but could never get

anything back. And this whole cycle makes it hard for me to respond in

healthy ways to what should be and can be healthy, two way give and

take friendships.

So again I'm at the point of what do I do about all this. I can't heal

the second layer until I heal the third layer. But how do I do that?

This is where it always gets stuck. I can't change the fact that I

never had a healthy male relationship as a child. Well Tony could sort

of be considered that I guess, but it took years to really feel

comfortable with him. I can't change the fact that I sometimes played a

parent to my mom. I can't change the fact that I never truly had

emotional understanding and support from either adults or peers. the

closest adult that came to that drew away and eventually committed

suicide. How am I supposed to heal these things. I can barely even feel

the emotions of them. they are just facts, just there to analyze. I can

say well I need to feel the emotions, but I can't seem to find them.

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