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from elliemay23 :
I'm locked but if you'd still like to read I'll email you the name and password. Just let me know. xoxo, Ellie
from her-story :
If you want to put in a recipe, then do it. It's your writing not anyone else's. I feel for you and what you must be struggling with... writing about personal (and sometimes painful) things can be difficult. Good luck w/ your book/journal!
from poolagirl :
Thank you for stopping by my diary! I paid you a visit too - and I am intrigued with your work. You are now a new fave! Hoo-Rah!
from pandionna :
Hi! Please drop me a line at pandionna2 at aol dot com. I don't seen an e-mail address for you here and I don't want to leave the password out in public. Muah!
from katiedoyle :
I somehow missed that particular quote. ::sigh:: I really think God should kill the lot of us and just leave the planet to the animals. I'm not so sure that eternal life thing is such a good idea on His part, either... kd
from dangerspouse :
Babe! Thanks for the great note! I'm glad I gave you a little chuckle. (You obviously have very low standards.) Ooh, and I liked your list - it was so apolitical! ;)
from katiedoyle :
merry christmas & a safe, happy new year, joan! (or happy hannukkah/hanukkah/hannukah/chanuka/chanukkah...) kd
from hamiltonian :
moyers now was wonderful last night Joan
from katiedoyle :
there is no way kerry spent that much of his own money trying to get elected as a lie. he wanted to win. the question is how we stop the fraud before it's too late? i'm really disturbed about the discrepancy in exit polling and votes in the precincts without paper trails. every single other precinct, the exit polls fall within 1%. how could the non-paper ones be so skewed unless they were rigged? the odds are simply astronomical. :( kd
from katiedoyle :
oh, *duh*. I didn't even think about that. sorry.
from katiedoyle :
huh. maybe it is. i can get to it easy, but i'm in cali. perhaps in your neck of the woods, there's a little more business going on.
from katiedoyle :
hi, joan...can't find your email info. the link is http://www.votergate.tv/ . Try cutting and pasting, I guess, because it works for me. The film link is on that page, just under the Votergate title and menu. There are 3 arrows, blue, red, and green. Choose the blue or red arrow, depending on your modem. Hope that helps. Let me know if not. kd
from bedazzledman :
great incite, great writing. glad i followed a link to you...
from hamiltonian :
Tomorrowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
from pyroguysr :
Ahhhh... that tis about wot I appear to be like when I'm at faire
from pyroguysr :
Nope. Every time I close my eyes, I visualize a Bush-Cheney landslide. *grins* And then, the Libertarians win everywhere else.
from seastreet :
I'm really not trying to be a Disagreeing Troll here. Really. I'm trying to promote productive dialogue. But I have to take issue with any assertion that there isn't a lick of difference between the annexation of Poland and our ill-conceived invasion of Iraq. (1) Poland was not run by a dictator. I think our biggest mistake where Saddam is concerned was that we didn't invade when he gassed the Kurds in the 80s, and we shouldn't have supported his regime then, either. Is this adequate rationale for an invasion now? I'm uncertain, and since it was not the stated reason for going to war, I still oppose Bush's actions. It is inhuman not to intervene in cases of genocide. We did not. It's truly depressing, how few of us liberals can admit to having neglected the Kurds twenty years ago. (2) Hitler invaded Poland with the express purpose of expanding from there. I do not think Bush has any plans to expand our interests in the Middle East. "Promote democracy?" Yes. Will this work? No. Will he attempt to do so at gunpoint? Only inasmuch as he already is. (3) Does Bush have as his single-minded end the eradication of an entire religion or race? I doubt it. I am no apologist for atrocity, and have no doubt that we have committed many in Iraq, but they are primarily due to pride, misunderstanding, bad timing, and irresponsibility, and are vastly different in scope from Hitler's actions. Incessant comparison to Hitler only muddies people's thinking about politics. Personally, I think Bush's dream of a community of more or less capitalist vassal states is more easily comparable to Britain during its expansionist period. Empire is nasty, but not nearly as nasty as- and very different from- Nazism.
from dangerspouse :
Hi babe! Thanks for the note - I'm floored!! I was sure my non-voting stance would mean a complete disavowal of my existance from you. (And I must say I enjoyed your rebuttal to my position a few days ago. Bravo!) Glad you enjoyed my little fluff piece - it was very nice of you to leave such an ego-stroking comment :)
from iamhubpluh :
I almost aborted my daughter, and thank God everyday that I didn't. I do think that it's hypocritical the way the media and politicians play it out. Why is one life more valuable than another? I was at heart walk a couple weeks ago, and the same people who say no to animaal testing are the same people who want to do testing on human embryos. WTF? A life is a life.
from vikingmaiden :
Hi, thanks for stopping by. I appreciate the comments, as always. I think I'm pro-life in the true sense of the word; I abhor war, abortion, and the death penalty. I know exactly what you mean about other 'pro-life' advocates. They can easily say, "Abortion is wrong! War is essential!" I know exactly what you mean. That's what I put up with in my Catholic school ;). Take care!
from theyknew :
i was with mr. lama and mandela too! ~neo
from dangerspouse :
Jeez, I used to like you. Now that I know you're free AND beautiful I've changed my tune. (BTW, from reading between the lines I'm beginning to get the impression that you're not overly thrilled with our current Presidential Administration. Far fetched, maybe, but I just get that vibe. Call me crazy, but I *swear* I see some subtle signs here). :)
from vikingmaiden :
By the way, loved your entry of today (10/12). You should really be one of Bush's advisors. ;););) Perhaps you should be on the other end of his earpiece during tomorrow night's debate?
from vikingmaiden :
Yeah, I know we'll make it. It's part of what makes us America. I suppose my clinical depression sometimes manifests itself in total hopelessness regarding this election ;). Thanks for stopping in and reading. I shall make a valiant attempt to keep my hopes up, regardless of who is 'elected' (in so many words) come November. Take care!
from seastreet :
First of all, I don't think that the fact that the Bush administration is spending money on Selective Service implies that he's planning on a draft. All Presidents should allocate money to draft plans, anyway, just in case we're attacked by another government (that I think Bush is sort of inviting attack shouldn't matter.) Second, I think the creeping fear of the draft that seems to be going around these days is a little misplaced. The government has recently ended loopholes excluding many college students, and if a draft was instituted, the family income of the average draftee would go up. I'm aware that your generation looks on the draft with particular horror, and with good reason. I must also confess that I'm ineligible because I'm diabetic. But I still think that without a draft, the rich will remain far more comfortably insulated from the consequences of their wartime political and economic decisionmaking. The military is the only branch of government that has assimilated minorities to the extent that it should have, so another one of the consequences of voluntary service is that at least for the present, a disproportionate share of the people who die in Iraq will be African American or Hispanic. Personally, if I had the option- and I have attempted to enlist several times- I would rather die to fill out the statistics a little bit than live knowing that I'd let oppressed people do the dirtiest of the dirty work from which I benefit.
from invisibledon :
Thank you for adding me to your favorite list
from vikingmaiden :
Thanks :). I'm just battling my period, haha. Waiting anxiously for the bext debate.
from theyknew :
Thanks for the truths and your candidness as always.. nEo
from vikingmaiden :
Love your entries. :) Hope you're doing well.
from pyroguysr :
Kerry has a positive vision? What is it? I haven't heard it yet. All I've heard is that W is "wrong". And if he does have a position, it will change tomorrow, depending on how public sentiment, polls and political winds blow. No, I'll vote for Bush. He wants to WIN in Iraq, not turn it over to the U.N. (name me ONE war, one police action, one event where the U. N. has ever won!) Kerry never said anything about wanting to "WIN" in Iraq until he was asked. If someone has to ask, you have failed. MY sources in Iraq (7 soldiers stationed in different locations) all say we are winning, that this stuff going on is no different than when Al Capone (or current gangs) was shooting up cities to try and gain power and wonder why the press is reporting only the negative stuff. Well DUH. Jezuz on a stick... where would we have been in WW2 if Roosevelt had said, "I'm going to begin pulling us out of the Pacific immediately and will have us totally out of the war in 4 years?" We'd all be speaking either Japanese or German! And how many people are still getting killed in Mr. Clinton's old war in Bosnia? Gee, we don't HEAR about THAT one. *sighs* Dear, you make me rant. Don't know if that's good, but you make me rant.
from hamiltonian :
"I appreciate that question because I, in the state of Texas, had heard a lot of discussion about a faith-based initiative eroding the important bridge between church and state."--President George DUBYA Bush
from pyroguysr :
Ummmmm... sorry about the rant. *sheepish smile*
from pyroguysr :
Shortchanged? We spend 3 times as much on education on children in this country as does Sweden, Norway or Denmark and their kids score better on tests!! Congress (Bush does NOT make the budget, he simply administrates and executes the laws) didn't DENY any funds, they just didn't increase the funding as much as the NEA wanted... we're still spending more than last year! Maybe if we could corral the stupidity and arrogance of the school boards rein in those superintendents that are building "feifdoms" rather than making sure our kids are educated, slash the "power" that the NEA has over our education system and give teachers back the right to punish disruptive children rather than coddling them, we could actually use the money for education rather than demanding new school buildings, making the single child more important than the many, indoctrinating children to respond to bells like Pavlov's dog so that they work better in factories (instead of thinking creatively)and ordering new and revised textbooks every year to make them "more PC." The problem I see with school systems now is that they are increasingly concerned about how a child FEELS about being educated rather than actually TEACHING them anything... and damn it, I'm going to make sure my grandchild is homeschooled so that I KNOW he/she will learn something! (Please note that I did NOT lay a majority of the blame at the feet of teachers... they are caught between a rock and a hard spot!)
from vikingmaiden :
Thank you.
from vikingmaiden :
:) No, I haven't read her, but I'll be sure to check her out. Hope you're doing well.
from pyroguysr :
Actually, I'm more "Libertarian" than I am "conservative" though I rather hate labels. I'm opinionated is all. *laughs*
from vikingmaiden :
Thanks for adding me to your favorites. :) Love your take on politics. Keep writing!
from pyroguysr :
*grins* OK, I've been added to your "favorites" so I guess I should add you to mine. Might get a bit feisty back and forth though! *chuckles*
from thecrankyone :
Thank you for your sweet words. It means alot to me that people care so much.. I will live as I always do. Things just seem so hard sometimes.
from pandionna :
Ooh, thanks for the shout-out! What an interesting week this is, isn't it? (She asked with deadly calm.)
from katiedoyle :
sadly, yes, it did happen, and yes, it was truly a nightmare. thank you for your kind note. kd
from hamiltonian :
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
from hamiltonian :
Mr. Bush’s central problem is not that he was lying about Iraq, but that he was overzealous and self-deluded. He surrounded himself with like-minded ideologues, and they all told one another that Saddam was a mortal threat to us. They deceived themselves along with the public – a more common problem in government than flat-out lying. --Nicholas Kristof
from hamiltonian :
The big hit will be when Fahrenheit 9-11 will be out on DVD. I think people are going to flock and bring the discussion to the entire household... I do seroiusly think Bush will doing something military wise to make a show of force politically that can keep him elected. If their was a terrorist attack I feel it will only help Bush as he is so pro fear. FDR warned us "The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself". Well Bush would never speak out like that... fear is his ally as it keeps the masses under control...
from hamiltonian :
http://www.workingtv.com/parenti.html
from thecrankyone :
I love her answers. I'd say kids are asking and thinking about this at a much earlier age, because thanks to the media and society starting to slowly get over certain predjuces kids are aware of these things much earlier. Most gay kids knew early on they were different. But at that age, I don't think I had the foggiest idea what gay was, or that there was such a thing.
from hamiltonian :
I sent you the uncorrected entry after all that *BLUSH*!
from hamiltonian :
I was surprised to hear anyone write about Betsy, as well as talk of living in New orleans. I know someone who dared to ride out Camille sadly with horrific personal consequences.
from dangerspouse :
Did I make it up? With pictures?? God no, that would mean summoning more expertise than genetics will allow. No, that was pretty much the unalloyed truth. For once. On an unrelated note, I am enjoying immensely going back now and catching up on your mini-bio. Fascinating! Just absolutely fascinating. It's a world and set of experiences unlike my own, and that makes it seem all the more exotic. I loved the "Centering" entries, but they all were sterling. Your writing style is perfect for a memoir of this sort. Although it is abridged of course, the power and clarity of your writing really adds life to your Life stories. Bravo!
from hamiltonian :
Sharpton's a nice guy but abit of a show off.
from myexodus :
If your noticing a lot of hits from someone....its me. ~~~Gotta love Al Sharpton, whether you consider yourself Republican or Democrat. I loved when he was in Iowa and said -I'm going to slap the Republican out of the Donkey!~~~I'm not good at remembering things verbatimly like I use to, but it sums it up just as well. =]
from hamiltonian :
I hope you are able to read it ... I am clueless why you have not been able too(???)
from hamiltonian :
I'm not sure why you could not read my journal.. try again...
from katiedoyle :
i was thinking about the whole crying wolf thing on the road home; too serendipitous you mentioned it too. :) kd
from sunnflower :
Thanks for your kind note re my son's birthday and the coasters rides. I try to be a good mom but I think we all do try our best. I was reading your last entry - I dig orange kitchens as my mom had one and it was amazing. However, you have to be brave and have black appliances. It sounds like you have done so many interesting things in your life and I am very inspired and impressed. I could never open and run a successful shop.
from dangerspouse :
Oops - sorry about the "Depends" line! I forgot that some of my readers may, ah, well...ok, I'm sure YOU'RE not one of them. But I imagine you some who are, and I'd hate to hurt THEIR feelings. Thanks for the great note, babe! :) (But how is it that everyone always manages to read my diary before I can rush home and proof read it?! Very embarrassing...) Ciao!
from her-story :
I read your recent journal (re: AIDS) and wished that you were with me the day this big jerk at school decided to scream in my face that AIDS is NOT an epidemic, nor was it ever... and that it was only portrayed as that by the media for propagandist reasons. (After I went to the World Health Organization website and printed out about 50 pages for him to read----the ignorant slouch that he was.) I grew up in a hemophiliac household, surrounded by people who I know have passed away from a disease that decimated them... kids that I grew up with who had hemophilia and whom I haven't seen in 20 years have all since died. I never realized the impact of this until I learned that nearly 12 (or more) of my childhood friends died from AIDS/HIV or something in conjunction to them. Thank you for writing and offering statistical (and accurate) information!
from dangerspouse :
Happy Anniversary! Wow, what a terrific, touching entry. It really was a joy to read. Hope you guys have at least 28 more, and all just as happy! (BTW, we had a "Pork Ridge" where I grew up also, although that moniker was earned for more, ah, prurient reasons.)
from dangerspouse :
Do you know, I came here merely to thank you for the sweet note you left at my humble abode. And I see that you have also added me to your Fave List, for which I'm also grateful. But...I began reading through your diary, and now I am completely enamored, not just thankful. What a wonderful wordsmith you are! I loved the "Max Asks for Tutoring" entry, despite my aversion to children. And I agree wholeheartedly with your views on the outdatedness of the Electoral College. Bravo! So "thank you" for your note AND for the wonderful time I've had here. I will be back :)
from elliemay23 :
Thank you so much for adding me to your list. I believe you'll be on mine too...any one who loves Moonstruck can't be bad. My mom and I can quote the whole movie. xoxo, Ellie
from sunnflower :
Hi from Suburban Island and thanks so much for adding my dairy to your diaryland favorites list!
from pandionna :
I adore you already!

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